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juniemoonie- 01-27-2008
QUOTE (msjacrowe @ January 20, 2008 04:25 am)
Wow, I have been watching UTube all day; from Sonny and Carly's first meeting all the way through the miscarriage, and beyond. I am actually watching Utube instead of watching televised GH in its time frame. I hope Guza never ever ever(I need more evers) ever ever ever comes back. He could just stay lost out there in la la land. He has just pulled this show down..down..doown.

I couldn't agree more. The difference between the pre-Guza writing and when he started is noticeable almost immediately but even more so in recent years where pretty much only the mob gets storylines. I watch most of the show on youtube now and can finish watching an episode in about 5 minutes with FF through the Sonny and Jason scenes. Pretty pathetic.

esp13- 02-02-2008
SON is reporting that Hogan Sheffer and most of his writing staff have been fired and won't return to Days after the strike ends (if it ever does) --

http://boards.soapoperanetwork.com/index.php?showtopic=24489

Soap Opera Network Exclusive!

Soap Opera Network has just learned of a huge writers shake up at “Days Of Our Lives.” According to sources, the following writers have been fired and will not return to the show after the strike ends: Head Writer: Hogan Sheffer; Associate Head Writers: Tom Casiello, Frederick Johnson, Meg Kelly, Gordon Rayfield, Judy Tate; Script Writers: Judith Donato, Renee Godelia; Script Editor: Richard Backus. The status of the other Script Writers: Bettina F. Bradbury, Cydney Kelley, and Jodie Scholz is unclear at the moment.

Stay tuned to SON as more details become available on this developing story.

AdamPascalFan- 02-02-2008
If this is true.....I am sorry for the whole writing team....

However it does give me hope as a GH fan that Guza can be shoved out on his own mob-loving pole........

Damn hope...I'll never learn will I?

Becca- 02-02-2008
WTF? Why would they do that? The improvement in writing had been significant! Are we stuck with the idiots writing it now?! The dialogue last week was atrocious.

Good point though that this could mean the end for Guza. I thought that the ultimate union agreement would prohibit terminations like this, but I'd probably be okay with any and all of them if it meant GH got a better writing team.

esp13- 02-02-2008
QUOTE (Becca @ February 02, 2008 03:36 pm)
WTF? Why would they do that? The improvement in writing had been significant! Are we stuck with the idiots writing it now?! The dialogue last week was atrocious.

Good point though that this could mean the end for Guza. I thought that the ultimate union agreement would prohibit terminations like this, but I'd probably be okay with any and all of them if it meant GH got a better writing team.

Because Ken Corday is an idiot?

I don't know why Corday would get rid of the entire writing team and bring on Hackley. As for whether we are stuck with her, I don't know. If she's scabbing, then I can't imagine she can keep her job after the strike ends (assuming it ends). If she's fi-core, then I guess she probably can keep the job. But, I would guess Corday anticipates keeping her around since he is firing people based on her upcoming storylines.

I agree that dialogue last week was pretty atrocious -- particularly the day's worth of "It can't be!" "It is!" "It's not possible" crap we got in the Ireland stuff.

But, look at it this way, it should make it much easier for you do blog because there will be so much more to bitch about. Sigh.

Oh, and here's a link to a blog by one of the fired writers --

http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseacti...logID=354039196

kazou- 02-02-2008
esp13, the link you provided just goes to MySpace's main page. Has the writer's page been removed or is there just an error in the link?

Many thanks!

kazou- 02-03-2008
Here's a link with a bit more info about the "mystery" of "Financial Core."

I don't know what to think about the writer's strike, honestly. I know everyone who's anyone says "I support them totally" and perhaps that's because the writers are 100% right and the evil corporations are ... well ... evil corporations. However, I'm not a big fan of today's unions. (Yes, I agree they were desperately needed when they began but now I find most of them political and corrupt, with a few noteable exceptions.) I also don't like the idea of unions forcing actors and/or writers to join them simply so they can WORK because the unions have forced clauses stating only union members can be hired. Yes, again, originally I'm sure that was because the companies would just "accidentally" choose only non-union members to hire out of retaliation but eventually the unions have too much power and as much corruption as the entities against which they fight. (It's the old "absolute power corrupts absolutely" saw.) I guess I'm just not a good union soldier.

Having said that, I *do* believe in fair pay for fair work and would be interested to see how this all works out since I don't know any of the details. For instance, although I loathe the thought of big corporations and armies of mini-Frons' dictating what I see on my shows, I also don't begrudge those big corporations a profit. I'd like to see a happy medium somewhere but people tend to get entrenched in their positions, quit listening and then destroy the very genre they are fighting "for."

Also, can someone explain to me whether the "new media" issues start from this point forward or whether writers want that retroactively in their residuals? If retroactive, well, when I design something for someone and they figure a new way to use it, should I automatically get more money or did I sign away my rights for what was then fair pay? If they are negotiating from this time forward, then of course, I think they should be fairly compensated. (Hopefully I don't sound too ignorant, musing aloud about things when I don't know all the detials and just had to look up "financial core." LOL)

There's also a very skeptical side of me that wonders how many of these actors walking the picket lines are doing so simply for political reasons. Yes, there are some like Nancy Lee Grahan who are vehement in their politics so I'd tend to believe she's out there because she believes in the cause, heart and soul. But I also think a lot of daytime actors know their fates are in the hands of those writers so they'd BETTER show support. They also may just want face time. But that's the skeptic in me.

As for how this will help/hurt daytime, well, I don't see any way it CAN'T hurt daytime and, again, the skeptical side of me wonders if corporations like CBS and NBC WANT that. Jeff Zucker has made no secret of the fact that he doesn't see daytime past 2009 for NBC. I've often wondered if Brian Frons' micro(mis)management is simply trying to drag ABC shows down enough to the point where he can slash them for something more profitable. Chat shows and game shows are much cheaper to produce. Moreover, I think the man has a genuine contempt for the daytime genre. He took SoapNet, a network ostensibly all about daytime soaps and essentially gutted it so he could cram it full of cheap residual teen dramas. He cancelled any of their original programming (Lisa/Ty's show, Wally's "One Day" and the other 1/2-hour daytime soap program) and instead has started showing REAAAAALLLLY old movies. I'm sure he's cut their costs dramatically and thus ensured his job safety by "thinking outside the box" (I mean, how outside do you have to get to think "I'll program a soap channel with ANYTHING but soaps").

Oh well, that's my ramble. I don't trust the corporations and don't trust the unions. I just wish daytime won't be destroyed by all this.

kazou- 02-03-2008
QUOTE (esp13 @ February 02, 2008 10:40 pm)
I don't know why Corday would get rid of the entire writing team and bring on Hackley. As for whether we are stuck with her, I don't know. If she's scabbing, then I can't imagine she can keep her job after the strike ends (assuming it ends). If she's fi-core, then I guess she probably can keep the job. But, I would guess Corday anticipates keeping her around since he is firing people based on her upcoming storylines.

That's tough news for Days fans. The show was in the toilet -- both ratings-wise and quality wise then Hogan took the helm and immediately blogs were celebrating a meteoric rise in quality. The ratings also increased (although probably not enough to make Jeff Zucker rethink his vendetta against daytime tv). OTOH, Hackley took OLTL from mediocre ratings and decent quality entertainment into the absolute depths -- again, both ratings-wise and quality wise. Within a month of her firing, the show was on an upswing.

Why would *anyone* re-hire a woman with such an abyssmal track record -- and do so at the expense of the one man who has been able to (somewhat) improve Days' ratings?? It makes no sense to me unless they're wilfully sabataging daytime so there aren't any viewers around to protect Zucker's eventual plug-pulling.

Becca- 02-03-2008
QUOTE (kazou @ February 03, 2008 06:05 am)
Why would *anyone* re-hire a woman with such an abyssmal track record -- and do so at the expense of the one man who has been able to (somewhat) improve Days' ratings??

Mallory and I have had this conversation a dozen or more times: How the hell do soaps' head writers and executive producers -- usually fired because they put a show in the crapper and in some instances got it canceled -- get re-hired to do the same thing to another show? And in some cases, they've torpedoed multiple shows! (Rhymes with Pill Barren Kelps.) Is there no degree of meritocracy in Hollywood? And I don't buy the bullshit about none of the good people want to work in daytime. Running or writing a soap is a stable gig, with (apparently except for Days) a lot of freedom and ability to do interesting things. You will have a hard time convincing me that there aren't at least dozens of Hollywood-dwellers who could do it better than the ten or so who just keep rotating around the shows.

kazou, I definitely see what you're saying about the unions. (I recall doing one of those dramatic blinks - shakes head - blinks gestures last year when I read a quote from one of the UAW folks about not accepting something or other because Ford was in a better financial position than management would admit -- when Ford had just taken out literally the largest loan in the history of the planet to keep the lights on. Sometimes there have to be concessions, especially in changing industries.) It just seems like in this case the studios are being unreasonable. We won't pay you anything for new media because we're not sure how much if any money we're going to make off of it? Oh yeah right, because corporations do so many things that aren't profitable. And a few cents more per DVD for the writers, when that rate hasn't been changed in two decades and in that time the home video market has skyrocketed, also seems reasonable. I can't get past that the studios' explanations seem just plain greedy. Not to mention if someone like Dave Letterman can come to an acceptable agreement with his writers without worrying about his profit margin, I don't understand why studios can't. Anyway, that's my Sunday morning pre-caffeine thoughts on the strike. I'm sure you were just itching for those.

esp13- 02-03-2008
Sorry about the bad link to the blog. Let me try again --

http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseacti...logID=354039196

It really is worth reading, I think. He basically confirms that Corday interfered with the writing team leading to the drastic drop in ratings last spring and summer.

I don't understand why the soaps feel the need to recycle writers and producers all the time. I can't believe there isn't any new blood that was come up in the ranks and could provide some fresh ideas.

However, Days bigger problem is and always has been Ken Corday. By all accounts he's a very nice man who knows nothing about running a soap opera. He can't stand criticism (he's apparently ordered freezeouts on SOW at least twice when they were "too critical"), and makes knee jerk decisions that almost always backfire on him. He needs to stop pandering to fanbases and start trying to put together a quality show. Although it's probably too late now.


Becca- 02-03-2008
I started a new thread for this Days news, so non-viewers don't have to share our misery.

Thanks so much for that MySpace link, esp13 -- it was really interesting. And sad. I still can't believe the execs did this.

In strike news, though, a more positive turn -- it looks like it may be over within a couple of days. Hallelujah.

Becca- 02-10-2008
It looks like the strike really is over!

AdamPascalFan- 02-11-2008
I think I speak for most GH fans when I say...

Damn it! That means Guza is coming back! Crap it all to heck!

I was the only one at my second job who said quite loudly "NO!" when this made the news. However it did lead to my discovery that the two co-workers I was having a break with were also GH fans and understood my pain totally.

juniemoonie- 02-12-2008
I really think for my sanity I might have to stop watching for a bit when he comes back. I may watch the Robin and Patrick progression on Youtube but even that pisses me off to no end lately.


jackpeyton- 02-13-2008
QUOTE (AdamPascalFan @ February 12, 2008 05:24 am)
I think I speak for most GH fans when I say...

Damn it! That means Guza is coming back! Crap it all to heck!

actually - i hate to admit this - but i liked the show better under guza.

shoot me now please. thanx.

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