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juniemoonie- 02-19-2008
This is why I disagree with the way they are handling this storyline. I think Patrick has been acting like an ass but Robin doesn't tell lies about this sort of thing. It's not that she's a saint, she just always believes a father should know his kid. She didn't know Robert and Anna were her parents until she was 7 and that hurt her then!

I think they are writing this all wrong for her but the LAST thing she derserves is to have Carly involved in any way. That's not justice because Carly is a lying harpy and doesn't warrant another victory. She always gets what she wants at no cost to herself. Why couldn't they show one freaking happy moment with Robin and her family celebrating this pregnancy before they threw Carly in her path? They could have done something awesome after losing Georgie so tragically with her telling Mac and Maxie and having some family time. They are also making this all about Patrick which is completely annoying.


I will agree 100% that Guza is a hack.

filegirl- 02-19-2008
OK, did anyone see today's show!!! Patrick KNOWS. He is trying to get her to tell him. He was hotly interrogating her. LOL

jackpeyton- 02-19-2008
QUOTE (juniemoonie @ February 19, 2008 09:40 pm)
This is why I disagree with the way they are handling this storyline. I think Patrick has been acting like an ass but Robin doesn't tell lies about this sort of thing. It's not that she's a saint, she just always believes a father should know his kid. She didn't know Robert and Anna were her parents until she was 7 and that hurt her then!

I think they are writing this all wrong for her but the LAST thing she derserves is to have Carly involved in any way. That's not justice because Carly is a lying harpy and doesn't warrant another victory. She always gets what she wants at no cost to herself. Why couldn't they show one freaking happy moment with Robin and her family celebrating this pregnancy before they threw Carly in her path? They could have done something awesome after losing Georgie so tragically with her telling Mac and Maxie and having some family time. They are also making this all about Patrick which is completely annoying.


I will agree 100% that Guza is a hack.

I see what you are saying.

And i am glad we could agree about something!

jackpeyton- 02-19-2008
QUOTE (filegirl @ February 20, 2008 12:50 am)
OK, did anyone see today's show!!! Patrick KNOWS. He is trying to get her to tell him. He was hotly interrogating her. LOL

Hotly interrogating... lol. Patrick brings new levels of hotness to everything.

kazou- 02-20-2008
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its like saying killing a killer isnt murder. Robin is lying. She is keeping the secret of who the father of her baby is, and i think it would be great if Carly was the one to out it.

I undersatnd - Guza is a hack. I loath the man like the rest of you, however what he writes does still reflect on these people we watch. I saw Robin call Carly's son a basterd. Well... pot, meet kettle. Not that i am really comparing the two. Robin is the better person, by far, and no doubt. however, still.


I don't think the analogy of "killing a killer isn't murder" is correct in this instance. In Robin's case we have a woman who has only just discovered her pregnancy. She is keeping the paternity info a secret but it's not clear this is a long-term plan. In fact, given her nature it's likely she will ultimately tell Patrick. She is still processing the information; taking a few weeks to do so until she decides what to do is a FAR cry from Carly's deliberate actions. Carly actively decided to deprive a father (twice) of a wanted baby and kept that secret for over a year.

Most women do not reveal their pregnancy until the third trimester -- there's too much hormonal turmoil and possibility of miscarriage. Robin didn't have that luxury because *everyone* knows she's pregnant and chooses to announce it daily at the nurse's station. I don't have a problem with initially deciding to keep quiet given Patrick's outspokeness. If she *continued* to lie past the first few months, then you might have some sort of argument. (Even then, I think you're comparing apples and oranges.)

Marianne- 02-20-2008
QUOTE (jackpeyton @ February 19, 2008 08:39 pm)
QUOTE (juniemoonie @ February 19, 2008 06:18 pm)
QUOTE (jackpeyton @ February 19, 2008 04:45 pm)
QUOTE (Marianne @ February 19, 2008 03:19 pm)
QUOTE (jackpeyton @ February 15, 2008 10:40 am)
I hope that Carly finds out Patrick is Robin's baby daddy and outs it.

Justice i tell you. Justice.

Justice for WHAT, pray tell? For the fact that Carly did not just INITIALLY lie about the paternity of her child, but lied until he was well over a year old, to a man who WANTED to be a father-b/c, you know, w/the paragon of motherhood that she was, she had every RIGHT to judge what kind of parent AJ would make. But at least she had a biological connection to Michael. Spencer, however? Nope, she just outright kidnapped him-she took the child of her BEST FRIEND, who wanted said child to be w/his biological father who was NOT Jax, and STOLE HIM. And Robin told Nikolas. And I know that, on GH, had she not told it would have been called "minding her own business"-but, for most normal people, her not telling would have been called "aiding and abetting kidnapping after the fact".
Marianne

I love Robin. I do. However she rides the high moral horse. I like to see anyone who rides that horse knocked down - and who better than Carly?

I am not saying Robin shouldnt have told the truth - both times - however, she also should lie to Patrick.

I don't agree that she rides the moral high horse and never really have. Her mistakes have cost her in her life. Carly on the other hand, has lied, cheated, stolen, and kidnapped to get her way and pretty much always gets away with it. I have rarely seen her get her comeuppance for her deeds. Robin (who was always a loved member of her community) was pretty much turned out of her home, friendships, and relationship with Jason for being honest about Carly's lies.

I see what you are saying, but its like saying killing a killer isnt murder. Robin is lying. She is keeping the secret of who the father of her baby is, and i think it would be great if Carly was the one to out it.

I undersatnd - Guza is a hack. I loath the man like the rest of you, however what he writes does still reflect on these people we watch. I saw Robin call Carly's son a basterd. Well... pot, meet kettle. Not that i am really comparing the two. Robin is the better person, by far, and no doubt. however, still.

Which, technically, Michael is. And CARLY called Jake a bastard-which, technically, he is. And Robin is having her own "bastard" now. So what's the point? And if by "riding a high moral horse" you mean she wouldn't let Carly continue to go on w/her babynapping spree, she wouldn't allow Sonny to kill Manny in the hospital, she wouldn't just sit back while Jason killed people for fun and profit and continue to live as an accomplice to that.....then I guess I'm on a high moral horse, too, b/c I would say something about those things too, had I been in that position. But that's just me.
Marianne

SwanSinger- 02-20-2008
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Ok, did anyone else CHOKE at the "Youth Violence Prevention" PSA at the end of today's show?

I have an idea GH. Why don't you STOP GLAMORIZING VIOLENCE on every freaking episode, and stop making heroes out of common thugs, and I think that might help just a tad!!!



Just as ironic to me was today's PSA about heart health. There's something unintentionally funny about Nurse Epiphany lecturing the audience on preventing heart disease. Sorry if that's in bad taste! I'm not as thin as I should be, but then I also don't do PSAs on heart health!

juniemoonie- 02-20-2008
How tired am I of Sonny? I don't even know what else to add because it's exhausting watching him have the same storyline for years and say the same lines about putting the people he loves in danger with his choice of work yet still try to pin blame on someone else!

The resolution is still that he shows up at the Zacchara's shooting!! There's a lesson for the audience. An eye for an eye works everytime. Let's have a PSA on revenge killing. Unreal.

AdamPascalFan- 02-20-2008
Its the same story for EVERYONE in the mob....

actually the entire show but that's something else entirely.

My friend and I are keeping a list of all violence threatened, spoken or done this week after the PSA....just for sadistic kicks...already in the double digits of things we can list. And its only Wednesday and we haven't even gotten to the reveal of TMK yet......

jackpeyton- 02-21-2008
Was that Mac on todays show? and Bobbie? Wow. Both in an episode. I was shocked.

Loved Maxie vs Lulu. Both have a point and i can see why they stand where they do. Julie Berman was great when lulu was losing it on the roof. Maxie going to kill Logan is great. I do not endorse the violence this show airs, however, it works in this situation. She thinks he killed her sister and boyfriend, and tried to kill her.

I have this odd like i cant explain for Liz & Patrick.

kazou- 02-21-2008
QUOTE (SwanSinger @ February 20, 2008 06:35 pm)
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Ok, did anyone else CHOKE at the "Youth Violence Prevention" PSA at the end of today's show?  I have an idea GH. Why don't you STOP GLAMORIZING VIOLENCE on every freaking episode, and stop making heroes out of common thugs, and I think that might help just a tad!!!
Just as ironic to me was today's PSA about heart health. There's something unintentionally funny about Nurse Epiphany lecturing the audience on preventing heart disease. Sorry if that's in bad taste! I'm not as thin as I should be, but then I also don't do PSAs on heart health!

SwanSinger, you and me both. I've been thinking for a long while about doing a post on actors' weight but it's a pretty taboo subject since we're usually allowed to criticize their performances but not their physicality.

We as a society are becoming obese. FAT is rapidly becoming the number one killer -- over cancer, over heart disease. We are killing our children because we sedate them with tv and food. Then we have SE on tv as Epiphany handing out PSAs on heart disease? How about ONE LINE of dialogue having the doctor tell her that her weight is KILLING her? How about a single indication that it's NOT OKAY to be 350lbs? Nope, GH pats itself on the back for helping heart disease by using the worst possible person as an example and not stating WHY she is a prime target for heart disease (age and race). Frankly, the only reason I think they did the PSA at all was because Campbell's was sponsoring it and gave them a big fat paycheck for because they want a big paycheck from Campbell's for the product placement.

I was overweight for several years. I finally had to just deal with it and lose 60 pounds because I don't want to be attached to an oxygen tank when I'm 65. I know how hard it is to lose weight and start exercising and certainly don't think we should mock fat people but man, can't we hold up better examples? Or at least show that being fat isn't cute or cuddly or sweet but lethal?! Can't we show people with real curves instead of either anorexics or behemoths?

joannep- 02-21-2008
QUOTE (juniemoonie @ February 21, 2008 04:34 am)
How tired am I of Sonny? I don't even know what else to add because it's exhausting watching him have the same storyline for years and say the same lines about putting the people he loves in danger with his choice of work yet still try to pin blame on someone else!

The resolution is still that he shows up at the Zacchara's shooting!! There's a lesson for the audience. An eye for an eye works everytime. Let's have a PSA on revenge killing. Unreal.

I can't stand how he's wielding a gun in a hospital!! He overreacts to every situation and it's always with over-the-top aggression/violence. Enough already!

Can't wait till he finds out his spawn is the reason Kate's losing her life...

SwanSinger- 02-21-2008
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My friend and I are keeping a list of all violence threatened, spoken or done this week after the PSA....just for sadistic kicks...already in the double digits of things we can list. And its only Wednesday and we haven't even gotten to the reveal of TMK yet......


Please post at the end of the week! I'd like to see it!

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Was that Mac on todays show? and Bobbie? Wow. Both in an episode. I was shocked.


Yes, and did you see her face?? Has Bobbie been on with that new face before? The way she was holding her head it almost looked like she was trying to cover up her bad plastic surgery.

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How tired am I of Sonny? I don't even know what else to add because it's exhausting watching him have the same storyline for years and say the same lines about putting the people he loves in danger with his choice of work yet still try to pin blame on someone else!


Ugh, me too. Just fast forward my friend. He's so one-note.

AdamPascalFan- 02-21-2008
QUOTE (SwanSinger @ February 21, 2008 09:09 pm)
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My friend and I are keeping a list of all violence threatened, spoken or done this week after the PSA....just for sadistic kicks...already in the double digits of things we can list. And its only Wednesday and we haven't even gotten to the reveal of TMK yet......


Please post at the end of the week! I'd like to see it!


You got it.....

Mallory- 02-22-2008
After watching today's episode and the big TMK reveal, I just have to say that this show...is just the worst.

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